Bruce Ginsberg: “I have been on a path to deepen my experience of everything”

Why have you followed this path of Zen and tea?

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Bruce Ginsberg: I have been on a path to deepen my experience of everything, to understand the moment before you think when the brain has already made the decision for nine tenths of all the things we do. We have an existence which doesn’t need thinking when we hand ourselves over to the moment.

Source :  http://www.alainelkanninterviews.com/bruce-ginsberg/

Bruce Ginsberg is a South African farmer’s son and a Zen practitioner for 50 years who has immersed himself in Asian cultures and made a life journey through tea. He was Chairman of the Buddhist Society Trust from 1991-2012 and served on the United Nations Association Religious Advisory Committee alongside imams, rabbis, Hindu priests, and Christian bishops and academics in the interfaith field. He runs Dragonfly Tea, a family-owned, British tea company with a hundred year heritage of making artisanal teas.

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Tupac Shakur : “if God wrote the bible, I’m sure there would have been a revised copy by now”

Q :What religion are you?

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Tupac: I’m the religion that to me is the realist religion there is. I try to pray to God every night unless I pass out. I learned this in jail, I talked to every God (member of the Five Percent Nation) there was in jail. I think that if you take one of the “O’s” out of “Good” it’s “God”, if you add a “D” to “Evil”, it’s the “Devil”. I think some cool motherfucker sat down a long time ago and said let’s figure out a way to control motherfuckers. That’s what they came up with-the bible. Cause if God wrote the bible, I’m sure there would have been a revised copy by now. Cause a lot of shit has changed. I’ve been looking for this revised copy-I still see that same old copy that we had from then. I’m not disrespecting anyone’s religion, please forgive me if it comes off that way, I’m just stating my opinion. The bible tells us that all these did this because they suffered so much that’s what makes them special people. I got shot five times and I got crucified to the media. And I walked through with the thorns on and I had shit thrown on me and I had the theif at the top; I told that nigga “I’ll be back for you. Trust me, is not supposed to be going down, I’ll be back. I’m not saying I’m Jesus but I’m saying we go through that type of thing everyday. We don’t part the Red Sea but we walk through the hood without getting shot. We don’t turn water to wine but we turn dope fiends and dope heads into productive citizens of society. We turn words into money. What greater gift can there be. So I belive God blesses us, I belive God blesses those that hustle. Those that use their minds and those that overall are righteous. I belive that everything you do bad comes back to you. So everything that I do that’s bad, I’m going to suffer for it. But in my heart, I belive what I’m doing in my heart is right. So I feel like I’m going to heaven. I think heaven is just when you sleep, you sleep with a good conscience-you don’t have nightmares. Hell is when you sleep, the last thing you see is all the fucked up things you did in your life and you just see it over and over again, cause you don’t burn. If that’s the case, it’s hell on earth cause bullets burn. There’s people that got burned in fires, does that mean they went to hell already? All that is here. What do you got there that we ain’t seen here? What, we’re gonna walk around aimlessly like zombies? That’s here! You ain’t been on the streets lately? Heaven now, look! (reffering to his plush apartment) we’re sitting up here in the living room-big screen TV- this is heaven, for the moment. Hell is jail I seen that one. Trust me, this is what’s real. And all that other shit is to control you. If the churches took half the money that they was making and gave it back to the community, we’d be alright. If they took half the buildings that they use to “praise God” and gave it to motherfuckers who need God, we’d be alright. Have you seen some of these got damn churches lately? There’s one’s that take up the whole block in New York. There’s homeless people out here. Why ain’t God lettin’ them stay there? Why these niggas got gold ceilings and shit? Why God need gold ceilings to talk to me? Why does God need colored windows to talk to me? Why God can’t come where I’m at where he sent me? If God wanted to talk to me in a pretty spot like that, why the hell he send me here then. That makes ghetto kids not belive in God. Why? So that’s wrong religion-I belive in God, I belive God puts us where ever we want to be at. They didn’t make sense that God would put us in the ghetto. That means he wants us to work hard to get up out of here. That means he’s testing us even more. That makes sense that if you’re good in your heart, you’re closer to God but if you’re evil than your closer to the devil; that makes sense! I see that everyday all that other spooky shit, don’t make sense. I don’t even belive, I’m not dissin’ them but I don’t belive in the brothers, I’ve been in jail with ’em and having conversations with brothers; “I’m God, I’m God.” You God, open the gate for me. You know far the sun is and how far the moon is, how the hell do I pop this fuckin’ gate? And get me free and up outta here. Then I’ll be a Five Percenter for life.

Source : http://www.angelfire.com/hiphop2/lifeanddeathof2pac/interviews.html

Krishnamurti: Change implies a great deal of inquiry, a great deal of search

Q: Do you think we will just keep going on like – warring among ourselves for all of history?

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Krishnamurti: You’re asking the same question in different words—what’s the future of man. Unless we radically change, the future is what we are now. It’s a serious fact. And nobody wants to change radically. They change a little bit here, a little there. If you want peace, you live peacefully. But nobody wants to live peacefully—neither the Pope, nor the prime minister, nor anybody. So they’re keeping up the wars. I’ve talked to a great many politicians in my life, a great many spiritual leaders, to gurus who come to see me—I don’t know why—they never  talked about ending conflict, which means finding out the cause of conflict. Never. Let’s say nationalism is one of the causes. They never talked about it. If the Pope said tonight that the church will excommunicate anybody who joins the army to do organized killing then tomorrow he wouldn’t exist. They would throw him out. So he won’t say, “Let’s talk about peace.”I’m not cynical, I’m just looking at facts. So, what will change man? Apparently nothing from outside—no church, no threats, no wars, nothing from outside. Change implies a great deal of inquiry, a great deal of search. Someone hasn’t the time so he says, “Tell me all about it quickly.” But one must give one’s life to this, not just play around with it. The monks think they have given their life but they have given their life to an idea, to a symbol, to somebody  called Christ. The Hindus have their sannyasins, the Buddhists their bhikkus—it’s the same phenomena.

source :https://www.scribd.com/doc/2079987/I-Don-t-Believe-in-Anything-Interview-With-Krishnamurti